Alanna Bennett joins us to explore what happens to you—physically and metaphysically—when you get into a fight with a magician. Our merch shop is run by Dan McQuade. You can also find all kinds of info about us and how to submit gossip on our Komi page: https://normalgossip.komi.io/ Episode transcript here. Order Kelsey's book, You Didn’t Hear This From Me, here! Follow the show on Instagram @normalgossip, and if you have gossip, email us at normalgossip@defector.com or leave us a voicemail at 26-79-GOSSIP. Normal Gossip is hosted by Rachelle Hampton ( @heyydnae ) and produced by Se'era Spragley Ricks ( @seera_sharae ) and Jae Towle Vieira ( @jaetowlevieira ). Alex Sujong Laughlin ( @alexlaughs ) is our Supervising Producer. Justin Ellis is Defector's projects editor. Show art by Tara Jacoby. Normal Gossip is a proud member of Radiotopia.